2025-10-04T13:49:29.669651+00:00	nya_1f616emo@DC	On both side of the station are downward slopes... I am afraid having tunnels would be hard esp. on the west side
2025-10-04T19:17:13.556407+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	@nya_1f616emo I believe a simple retaining wall and back-fill will fix that issue
2025-10-04T20:36:32.807392+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	Also, after a bit of fiddling and testing, I've come to the conclusion that the ARS issue at the Compound is not my fault but rather an AdvTrains bug
2025-10-04T20:38:44.977894+00:00	y5nw@DC	That is already known; IMO the next step is to patch the mod to find out what exactly triggered ARS at the signal
2025-10-04T20:41:20.268569+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	It's really weird because it seems to set a whole line of them to whatever their default (or RC route if it has no default) is once a train leaves the switch section at the immediate entrance to the yard. The one above the tunnel.
2025-10-04T20:42:11.802144+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	And even after making it non-ARS at the bottom switch, it still sets the train catcher switch ahead of it.
2025-10-04T20:43:05.222210+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	These things don't happen when manually setting routes with no trains on the line. Only when there's a train running does it have this issue
2025-10-04T20:43:05.339914+00:00	y5nw@DC	Part of the problem with the switch was that I messed things up while trying to look into the issue
2025-10-04T20:43:25.352237+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	It's nothing you did
2025-10-04T20:43:35.376202+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	Not directly anyway
2025-10-04T20:44:52.873575+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	I built roughly the same system on the sandbox server and it functions perfectly even with a non-RC train being caught be the train catcher. Granted it's quite small, so there are other issues
2025-10-04T20:45:10.658284+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	But the RC system works
2025-10-04T20:45:12.502023+00:00	y5nw@DC	Also I recall there being a loop along the line? I suppose a possible cause explanation is that the distance for triggering ARS is too long (i.e. longer than it should be)
2025-10-04T20:45:30.384768+00:00	y5nw@DC	"RC system"?
2025-10-04T20:45:38.141559+00:00	y5nw@DC	Also I recall there being a loop along the line? I suppose a possible explanation is that the distance for triggering ARS is too long (i.e. longer than it should be)
2025-10-04T20:45:51.272452+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	The trains triggering the RC routing
2025-10-04T20:46:11.407363+00:00	y5nw@DC	Ah, so the route selection system? I don't think that is the problem here to begin with
2025-10-04T20:46:20.414648+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	The issues that I'm having on the main server were not present
2025-10-04T20:47:26.670699+00:00	y5nw@DC	Although this would not explain why ARS is triggered on the signal even when the signal leading to it does not have a route set. In any case having a hint on the source of the ARS trigger would be much more helpful than speculating here
2025-10-04T20:48:02.440351+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	Kinda, the problem as far as I can tell is it's setting the default route from way too far back so that by the time the train would be triggering the RC route, it's being overridden by the already set route.
2025-10-04T20:48:44.657506+00:00	y5nw@DC	That in itself would still be a bug with the route_setting_ system, not the route _selection_ system
2025-10-04T20:48:53.959448+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	Not anymore, it does set the whole line when I have ARS on
2025-10-04T20:49:57.540610+00:00	y5nw@DC	Not to mention that this is inherently a consequence of the bug: something else triggers ARS at the signal and a route is set, in which case any approaching train would take the route regardless of whether it matches the ARS rules for said route
2025-10-04T20:51:12.033830+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	At some point along the yard loop though it  stops keeping me from canceling the route and it can set the ARS route normally.
2025-10-04T20:52:01.557380+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	So for some reason there's a portion of the loop that wants to set the whole bit to default
2025-10-04T20:53:22.705507+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	The only thing I haven't tried is what happens when a train coming from the Chunnel that has one of the RCs
2025-10-04T20:57:34.189296+00:00	browndoggie1912@DC	The simplest fix to this would probably be to have the RC of the train setting the first signal be told to each subsequent signal that gets set, that way no matter what, it will go according to it's RC. Ultimately though, the route setting system could really use an overhaul.
2025-10-04T21:11:06.519504+00:00	y5nw@DC	Look into distant signaling then
2025-10-04T21:28:33.371974+00:00	y5nw@DC	https://lists.sr.ht/~gpcf/advtrains-devel/patches/62645