2025-11-22T01:47:14.568930+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Hi maverick
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2025-11-22T02:21:21.015014+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	heyo
2025-11-22T02:21:38.034222+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I am mapping out where the line connecting JATIC and Groma should go
2025-11-22T02:21:52.059398+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	The line to your new base will be an extension to the JATIC section
2025-11-22T02:24:03.371293+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	i've had a quick look at that too, and I'm thinking maybe heading out around crystal biome and instead diverting through the silver sandstone biome to the west?
2025-11-22T02:26:15.356849+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Two of my plans involves going through the icy terrian
2025-11-22T02:27:22.139505+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	(1) https://files.catbox.moe/iuj6dv.png Goes through the crystal biomes via a bridge.
2025-11-22T02:27:48.954727+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	(2) https://files.catbox.moe/ve7ycb.png Goes just next to the crystal biome
2025-11-22T02:28:09.433534+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	(3) https://files.catbox.moe/9jdd0a.png Completely bypasses crystals
2025-11-22T02:28:27.569955+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	The two black dots are Groma and JATIC
2025-11-22T02:29:06.928556+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	(3) is more in line with what I was thinking, but (2) might be doable too, depending on how adverse we are to tracks laid on a glacier
2025-11-22T02:31:07.839309+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	It is logically insane but is doable, y5nw built a transit-oriented city on a glacier
2025-11-22T02:35:21.981897+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: do you need fly privs?
2025-11-22T02:35:44.993145+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	no thanks, I make do with the glider alright
2025-11-22T02:35:48.423790+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	okay
2025-11-22T02:38:39.453302+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	you probably saw the PR already, but I patched the random_messages_api to add a command to allow hiding the messages on a per-player basis
2025-11-22T02:50:18.815900+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	how about this route? https://files.catbox.moe/p6b3pp.png
2025-11-22T02:51:23.230776+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	pink diversion would require a couple of bridges, whereas main red diversion would just be a fairly straight run along the base of the snowy hills
2025-11-22T02:53:23.964747+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	It seems like we need some tunnel for the yellow section
2025-11-22T02:54:31.863547+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	i was assuming that would be the case to avoid a couple of really sharp bends straight out of the station on the mainline
2025-11-22T02:54:44.373158+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Ah
2025-11-22T02:55:59.333948+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	If we are doing the pink route, we may be able to run above Duck Island in a enev more straight route, much like what was proposed in my plan (1).
2025-11-22T02:57:53.786662+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	going to be a bit of tunnelling and/or bridging whichever way we go
2025-11-22T02:57:59.666091+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	yeah
2025-11-22T02:59:15.538029+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	And the height of Groma roughly aligns with this hill, so we cna occupy a small portion of crysal land to do the decline before diverging back to the icey terrian
2025-11-22T03:00:54.016568+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that would work
2025-11-22T03:01:15.521396+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	elevated track notched into the hillside
2025-11-22T03:03:43.624156+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	grand bridge coming across the first gap, notch and tunnel along the crystal in a fairly straight line, and another grand bridge across here
2025-11-22T03:04:31.179071+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Oh
2025-11-22T03:09:19.908716+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Btw, the main line has to be in right-hand traffic, so branches and connections can be made easily; it is OK to do left-hand in local railways
2025-11-22T03:09:43.810911+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	np
2025-11-22T03:09:58.069962+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hmm, np: "no problem" or "nope"?
2025-11-22T03:10:13.735747+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I guess it's "no problem"?
2025-11-22T03:10:17.689814+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	no problem
2025-11-22T03:10:22.917425+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Thanks :-D
2025-11-22T03:10:31.721595+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	np == no problem, nah == nope
2025-11-22T03:10:34.729533+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Ah
2025-11-22T03:10:44.980183+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	or just no probs :P
2025-11-22T03:11:50.096329+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I got some trackworking and tunneling digtrons that can be used to build long straight sections (completely straight and 45^\deg diagonal)
2025-11-22T03:11:59.953486+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I always mess up my 30^\deg diagonal
2025-11-22T03:12:39.911631+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I build tracks with 3m separation in subways too, so I can reuse the same digtrons
2025-11-22T03:14:35.514742+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	when you say 3m separation... whick one of these do you mean?
2025-11-22T03:14:50.371861+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	this ofc
2025-11-22T03:14:56.634059+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	gotcha
2025-11-22T03:15:04.977750+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I am not being insale for choosing that one for intercity railway
2025-11-22T03:15:25.190582+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hmm
2025-11-22T03:15:26.743472+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	3m inside-to-inside rather than 3m centre to centre
2025-11-22T03:16:04.406165+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	well, the seperating between two same-direction tracks in the Spawn-SmushyVille tunnel is 3m centre-to-centre...
2025-11-22T03:16:10.413567+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	*seperation
2025-11-22T03:19:14.283403+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	huh
2025-11-22T03:19:22.004337+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I took out the wrong digtron
2025-11-22T03:19:33.094723+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I wanted to bring the staright one but got the 30^\deg diagonal one
2025-11-22T03:21:59.024363+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I almost forgot where was my digtron
2025-11-22T03:22:18.454551+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	they need a locator beacon or something
2025-11-22T03:22:23.229833+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	ol
2025-11-22T03:22:29.825463+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	found it
2025-11-22T03:44:46.487810+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: I have extended the main line past Duck Island
2025-11-22T03:45:09.719148+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	blinks
2025-11-22T03:45:20.965105+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	it looks good at /night
2025-11-22T03:45:40.971318+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	always important
2025-11-22T03:48:56.402011+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	the annoying thing about starting again on a server is the lack of heavy machinery and automation you got used to previously...
2025-11-22T03:50:11.718842+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hmm what's that pile of lava...
2025-11-22T03:50:12.479120+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	don't mind the liquid light behind me
2025-11-22T03:50:15.887225+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	lol
2025-11-22T03:52:21.438085+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	digtron needs more fuel
2025-11-22T03:52:33.926531+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep, a tree farm in planned
2025-11-22T03:57:47.775341+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	good choppy
2025-11-22T03:58:01.021156+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	choppy is *very* handy for bigger trees
2025-11-22T03:58:49.918278+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	maybe you can run this digtron on HV power
2025-11-22T03:58:58.527279+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that's the plan
2025-11-22T03:59:10.750050+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	and auto unloader on either side
2025-11-22T03:59:49.751727+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep
2025-11-22T04:00:02.843626+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	or just pause it at one end with the luacontroller
2025-11-22T04:05:46.099993+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	gtg
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2025-11-22T04:05:50.170596+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	o/
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2025-11-22T05:40:36.998696+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	is the news supposed to trigger the "new news" notification when the other servers restart?
2025-11-22T05:41:29.986436+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	it checks for update everyt 5 min
2025-11-22T05:41:33.240044+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	and I did update it
2025-11-22T05:41:44.044961+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	that's unrelated to the sandbox server
2025-11-22T05:42:07.483461+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that would make sense then, I thought I checked the news when I logged back in
2025-11-22T05:42:08.254076+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Just did some changes to the Oriend Express and made it production-ready'
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2025-11-22T05:44:46.801415+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hmm, single-tracled here?
2025-11-22T05:44:49.314788+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	*tracked
2025-11-22T05:45:19.337819+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	only just getting the outline/scale down, most likely going to be a double track main
2025-11-22T05:45:25.550618+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	https://victorianrailways.net/signaling/completedia/warragul1950_02.jpg
2025-11-22T05:45:28.378286+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	okay
2025-11-22T05:45:31.188030+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I have to think about where the Newcomers Express will go; if it's gonna pass through here, this have to be dual
2025-11-22T05:45:54.355683+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that's fine with me
2025-11-22T05:45:57.056561+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	:-D
2025-11-22T05:47:07.700533+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	having the extended slopes makes it nicer to follow the terrain with a line instead of jumping up when you hit a bump :)
2025-11-22T05:48:24.398501+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Btw, I am thinking of a solution to diverging a slower train into a sidling (most likely a station track that will only see the next train in more than 1.5 minutes) so a faster train behind it can pass first
2025-11-22T05:48:43.737845+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	but I did't come up with any ideas
2025-11-22T05:49:15.216992+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	like a 3 platform station with 2 main platforms?
2025-11-22T05:49:54.105731+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	or would a stub platform work if we can reverse the train back out onto the mainline before continuing onwards?
2025-11-22T05:51:44.199791+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	I’d like to use existing stations to do the job - so the slower train stops at the platform, and then the faster train passes through a non-platform track (or for stations with multiple pairs of platforms, another platform track is also ok)
2025-11-22T05:52:06.521369+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that's definitely doable
2025-11-22T05:53:04.821346+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	have a look at the plan i sent above, No1 can be the normal platform, Back Platform as the slow train platform, and No2 as the express bypass
2025-11-22T05:53:28.708620+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Doable if everything is manually controlled, but I wonder if that can be automated (LuaATC?)
2025-11-22T05:53:41.554188+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	surely it can be
2025-11-22T05:54:25.749954+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	just have the slow train always arrive at Back Platform, and a short delay on No1 to allow for bi-directional stopping
2025-11-22T05:56:52.176086+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	on the other hand, dynamic platform assignment according to what's occupied might still be doable if you have a Lua track a couple of signals early to set an approach RC to direct to an available platform, updating notifications at the same time
2025-11-22T06:03:22.883792+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	oof that was a lag spike
2025-11-22T06:05:09.768761+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	lol, just realised I can't do anything with turnouts... can I have the railway_operator priv please?
2025-11-22T06:44:23.120985+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: oops
2025-11-22T06:44:31.365206+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	done
2025-11-22T06:44:33.549933+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	thanks
2025-11-22T06:44:51.058036+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	*maybe* you can operate those within your area, but I can grant you this anyways
2025-11-22T06:45:16.344272+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Is this the Melbourne station?
2025-11-22T06:45:36.253500+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	it only seems to be when I try to rotate a turnout rather than changing direction on it, yet rotating the corner tracks is fine
2025-11-22T06:45:46.339335+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: Ah
2025-11-22T06:45:50.022513+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	shift and rightclick
2025-11-22T06:45:55.854099+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	cuz rightclicking switch it
2025-11-22T06:46:08.612084+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	and shift plus rightclicking rotates it
2025-11-22T06:46:32.611310+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	Melbourne: nah, that's just my reference from the plan, Melbounrne being the "up" end of the yard
2025-11-22T06:46:44.039073+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	custom patch applied here so you can put trackworkers into itemfra,es
2025-11-22T06:46:46.775670+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	*ittemframes
2025-11-22T06:46:58.513470+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	huh, thought I tried shift+rightclick...
2025-11-22T06:47:08.861325+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	can you de-priv me for a sec please?
2025-11-22T06:47:11.697168+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	okay
2025-11-22T06:47:20.947753+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	done
2025-11-22T06:47:32.202241+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep, still works
2025-11-22T06:47:35.224082+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	okay
2025-11-22T06:47:38.641442+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	not sure how I missed that?
2025-11-22T06:47:53.253241+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	on LIFO you don't have to shift while rotating
2025-11-22T06:48:33.319965+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that would be it. does that patch override the on_rightclick function?
2025-11-22T06:48:36.878234+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	here is the patch: https://github.com/C-C-Minetest-Server/twi_mods/blob/main/rightclick_fix/init.lua
2025-11-22T06:49:07.729783+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep, it does
2025-11-22T06:49:14.066302+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	good to know
2025-11-22T06:51:40.408478+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I guess you're aware of this - we have slopes with lengths way pastt 3
2025-11-22T06:52:03.647083+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep, much more realistic to follow the terrain
2025-11-22T06:52:16.191374+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	:-D
2025-11-22T06:54:56.308085+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Why is the newcomers express not running...
2025-11-22T06:55:25.089046+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Hell, it ran past interlocked area
2025-11-22T06:55:38.183435+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	Error 404: active service not found
2025-11-22T06:55:42.725577+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Hmm
2025-11-22T06:55:58.167216+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Gotta take my private diesel engine to head to that station
2025-11-22T06:56:12.065310+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I need some time to program junction operations...
2025-11-22T06:57:54.396327+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Fortunately I am mostly running on trunks, so I don't have to instruct that man junctions
2025-11-22T06:59:08.433395+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	So the RC is just "J-SPN_S-ISN-RXF J-YTP-YTP_N-SV_N BAJ-1BW", two starting with "J-" for junctions and the last for entering the station
2025-11-22T06:59:20.339948+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Nah its J-SPN_S-ISN-RXF J-YTP-YTP_N-SV_N BAJ-T1BW
2025-11-22T06:59:50.212023+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that's a lot of pre-planning going into the RC scheme
2025-11-22T06:59:56.914484+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Yeah
2025-11-22T07:00:01.404841+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	for routing arbitary trains
2025-11-22T07:02:08.331826+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I can use my private diesel engine like a private jet, but I seldom use it that way unless I am travelling to somewhere far away from stations (e.g. some depots, and in this case, when the only service is gone)
2025-11-22T07:09:18.536790+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	back home :-D
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2025-11-22T07:47:04.079546+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi
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2025-11-22T13:11:26.358043+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi
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2025-11-22T13:33:59.255659+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	hi
2025-11-22T13:34:06.140044+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi
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