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2025-11-26T09:56:10.306733+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi GraveMan
2025-11-26T09:56:28.791026+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	hello
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2025-11-26T09:56:58.596248+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi Kisslinka
2025-11-26T10:10:32.066134+00:00	Kisslinka@MT_TWI	T
2025-11-26T11:06:04.015254+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	Maverick
2025-11-26T11:06:13.084181+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yes?
2025-11-26T11:06:30.301172+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	is there a sifter here?
2025-11-26T11:07:37.693591+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	Technic doesn't have one, so you have to dig for ores the hard way. I'd suggest looking into a digtron though to excavate a lot at once
2025-11-26T11:10:58.490899+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	btw you can double the amount of ingots you get from most ores by putting them into a grinder, and then smelting the dust
2025-11-26T11:11:15.086903+00:00	Kisslinka@MT_TWI	thx
2025-11-26T11:20:42.639409+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	❱ Joined the game
2025-11-26T11:20:45.459985+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi
2025-11-26T11:20:46.595054+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	hi
2025-11-26T11:20:47.325245+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hi
2025-11-26T11:21:03.111160+00:00	Kisslinka@MT_TWI	привет
2025-11-26T11:21:54.142916+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	1F616EMO: I present my multi-grass-bonemealer dye farm :)
2025-11-26T11:22:22.146152+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	oh
2025-11-26T11:31:26.537503+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	admin
2025-11-26T11:31:47.672137+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	zan u pls  give me some  cannibis seeds?
2025-11-26T11:31:53.813326+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	cannibis?
2025-11-26T11:32:02.723273+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hemp?
2025-11-26T11:32:03.436096+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	hm..
2025-11-26T11:32:04.239892+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	sec
2025-11-26T11:32:06.663820+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	ah hemp
2025-11-26T11:32:07.470968+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	конопля
2025-11-26T11:32:12.945244+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	yes
2025-11-26T11:32:48.817134+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	You can go to the public farm accessible from /spawn; before teleporting, type /sethome here so you can come back with /home
2025-11-26T11:32:56.526919+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I am at /spawn and ready to guide you there
2025-11-26T11:32:57.741126+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	ty
2025-11-26T11:33:06.648568+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	here
2025-11-26T11:33:19.063552+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	walk inside
2025-11-26T11:33:34.175658+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	oh no
2025-11-26T11:33:37.428820+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	ah here
2025-11-26T11:33:43.614757+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I thought there were no hemp here
2025-11-26T11:33:53.555470+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	remember to plant their seeds back
2025-11-26T11:34:06.060207+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	tsure
2025-11-26T11:34:32.165945+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	you can also grabe some seed, if any left after replanting, so you can have your own farm
2025-11-26T11:34:42.572572+00:00	GraveMan@MT_TWI	thx!
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2025-11-26T11:59:44.980968+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	did you say you were replacing the station stop tracks with LuaATC tracks?
2025-11-26T11:59:47.129588+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi Vedu_0825
2025-11-26T11:59:51.634044+00:00	Vedu_0825@MT_TWI	hi
2025-11-26T11:59:53.225178+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hi Vedu_0825
2025-11-26T11:59:57.300017+00:00	Vedu_0825@MT_TWI	hi
2025-11-26T12:00:04.875927+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: I have been using LuaATC station tracks for quite a while
2025-11-26T12:00:31.436989+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	The last traditional station/stop track got removed around a month ago, when that line receives PIS updates
2025-11-26T12:01:02.586959+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	ok cool. I'll put station tracks down for now and you can replace then with LuaATC PIS tracks when you make that part of the line
2025-11-26T12:01:09.279524+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	okay
2025-11-26T12:01:47.675220+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Btw the current codes for station track is too chunky...
2025-11-26T12:02:33.733137+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I have to think of an elegant way to do line branching and dynamic platform assignment, which might require doing backward-incompactible changes
2025-11-26T12:03:07.902885+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	i.e. existing lines cannot benefit from the update without tampering with every station tracks, and they must be suspended as the update proceeds
2025-11-26T12:03:13.696257+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	how hardcoded is platform assignment at the moment?
2025-11-26T12:03:58.564821+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: Hardcoded to hell, see for example https://github.com/C-C-Minetest-Server/twi_atlatc_env/blob/master/1F616EMO/src/02-config-lines.lua#L36-L46
2025-11-26T12:06:56.532624+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	in other news, the platform doors are pretty effective at keeping people off the tracks :P
2025-11-26T12:07:16.445071+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Yeah
2025-11-26T12:08:00.247997+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hmm how did you get off without dying
2025-11-26T12:08:17.173636+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	won't stop people forcing their way off the train enroute though if they're in the last wagon
2025-11-26T12:08:33.460221+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	ah
2025-11-26T12:09:02.303767+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Also it is pertty effective now - it iterates on all trains, only process those with opened doors and not moving, and only on loaded wagon parts
2025-11-26T12:09:26.331227+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	and then a list of kept-open doors are populated
2025-11-26T12:09:50.362629+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	The list is used by a low-frequency ABM that closes all opened doors not in the list
2025-11-26T12:10:05.611264+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	You can check this: https://github.com/C-C-Minetest-Server/advtrains_doors/blob/master/src/callbacks.lua
2025-11-26T12:10:12.167472+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Btw I wonder why didn't gabriel add this
2025-11-26T12:10:32.912641+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	just looking at the interlocking ARS and atlatc code, is the line field used in the boardcom or is that left to the rc?
2025-11-26T12:11:28.395978+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	invalid C route here btw
2025-11-26T12:11:31.785412+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	The line field have the same purpose as the rc field - also for matching trains. I prefer using RCs, and y5nw prefer using lines (he does not use my PIS, anyways)
2025-11-26T12:11:45.473441+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	fixed
2025-11-26T12:12:41.346871+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	btw this is my /home
2025-11-26T12:13:14.669405+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	looks nicer than mine :)
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2025-11-26T12:18:16.657550+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	just thinging out loud a bit: could the platform assignments be appended to the RC instead of being hardcoded to the train and route? That way you could have a LuaATC track a couple of signals earlier check the occupancy/reservation of a platform ahead of time, append the platform RC, let ARS direct it to the platform, and then have the station stop LuaATC track remove the platform RC to keep the string clean?
2025-11-26T12:18:18.580653+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hi file
2025-11-26T12:18:22.609219+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hi file
2025-11-26T12:19:13.373456+00:00	file@MT_TWI	hello
2025-11-26T12:20:16.485371+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	That could work; e.g. we can have both L-SPN and another route (perhaps start with "DL-" for dynamic line routing)
2025-11-26T12:21:02.958257+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	so trains are guided along the railway with L-* (and sorted into whichever platform avaliable if they don't have DL-), and platform assignment can be done early with DL-*
2025-11-26T12:21:48.733493+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Also I plan to assign an additional ID to all station track components, so multiple stopping points can be set for different type of trains while taking care of the minor differenced between arrival time
2025-11-26T12:21:50.120148+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	^^ and it still allows for hardcoded/designated platforms using eg <stn_code>_PL3
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2025-11-26T12:24:25.814094+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	iirc the current timetable implementation allows specifying a stop track position to *only* stop at that track, maybe something like that using atc_pos as a hash?
2025-11-26T12:24:43.398431+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	lol, you wrote that commit... nvm
2025-11-26T12:26:48.231751+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Yeah I wrote atc_pos
2025-11-26T12:28:05.195046+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: About atc_pos hashing: That would be harder to type than a short string in a set format
2025-11-26T12:29:26.936772+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Currently, train routes to a track is distinglished by e.g. SPN-T1E for coming from the west and facing east, and SPN-T1W for the revers. I am thinking of extending this to e.g. SPN-T1E3 for the track going towards east 3 blocks from the IP
2025-11-26T12:30:49.362981+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	that makes sense, maybe SPN-T1E-3 in case you need to string.split() at the - later on?
2025-11-26T12:31:49.839405+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Hmm， maybe SPN-T1-E3 would be better, cuz now F.stn_v2 accepts two track-related params, "here" (for station code, e.g. SPN) and "track" (for platform ID, e.g. 1)
2025-11-26T12:32:08.226431+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I can add an "<whatever>" which expects sth like "E3"
2025-11-26T12:41:41.630300+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	gotta say the highlight function on the interlocking tool is a godsend compared to squinting into the distance to see where the A/B markers appeared
2025-11-26T12:45:53.726642+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	relogging
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2025-11-26T12:51:24.081239+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	oops...
2025-11-26T12:55:27.100005+00:00	SYSTEM@MT_SANDBOX	✖ Minetest shutting down!
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2025-11-26T12:59:02.529505+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Moverick: fixed, will be applied on next restart
2025-11-26T12:59:49.096384+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	np, was just looking into a patch. restart when ready
2025-11-26T13:00:05.493190+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	weirdly my patch did not show up on the mailing list
2025-11-26T13:00:28.591547+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	weird
2025-11-26T13:00:29.312266+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	I used `git send-email --to="~gpcf/advtrains-devel@lists.sr.ht" HEAD^` which should be correct
2025-11-26T13:00:37.176329+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Result: 250
2025-11-26T13:00:52.746008+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	it went somewhere \o/
2025-11-26T13:02:08.377376+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Hmm
2025-11-26T13:02:11.268393+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Log says: host mail-a.sr.ht[46.23.81.152] said: 451 4.7.1 Try again later (in reply to end of DATA command)
2025-11-26T13:02:18.864016+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	must have hit the list, I just got the email
2025-11-26T13:02:27.410390+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	I just happen to be in the shell of the mail server
2025-11-26T13:02:42.380337+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	saw it too
2025-11-26T13:03:36.783369+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep, it's up... now we wait 3-6 business months for it to be applied
2025-11-26T13:04:00.368711+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	OMg
2025-11-26T13:04:46.707846+00:00	1F616EMO~nya @TG	Magnesium Oxide
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