2025-12-17T07:31:40.778024+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	❱ Joined the game
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2025-12-17T08:32:50.700259+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hi Elementalcraft
2025-12-17T08:32:55.243725+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Hi
2025-12-17T08:34:48.947607+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Been working on expanding my rail yard a bit
2025-12-17T08:35:07.559739+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	But I keep running out of ballast
2025-12-17T08:35:18.916713+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	gravel stonebrick?
2025-12-17T08:35:38.451627+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Yeah. Now I'm just upgrading my factory
2025-12-17T08:35:56.566603+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I should have enough to finish it
2025-12-17T08:36:15.416588+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	The fastest way of getting a ton of stone is to put exactly 39 condensed cobble inside an empty basket, then put that basket into HV furnace
2025-12-17T08:36:27.281909+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	then you get 3159 stones at once without the pain of moving items around
2025-12-17T08:37:06.514822+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	ofc with automated factories, it's better to smelt individual condensed cobble
2025-12-17T08:37:30.727927+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Well, I make the ballast automatically in my factory here, but I was working off of one cobble generator. Works for mainline work, but for large rail yards it's not quite enough
2025-12-17T08:37:41.262489+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	So I'm adding a second
2025-12-17T08:38:15.612010+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I don't have an automated ballast machine, but if I am to build one, I would hook it up to my digtron unloader
2025-12-17T08:38:54.618503+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	That would work too; I just don't use my digtron that often
2025-12-17T08:39:02.808137+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	okay
2025-12-17T08:41:07.660650+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	There we go
2025-12-17T08:45:19.274923+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	❱ Joined the game
2025-12-17T08:45:21.381256+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	hi Maverick2797
2025-12-17T08:45:25.154313+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	heyo
2025-12-17T08:45:37.831246+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Yo, Maverick2797, what's up my dude?
2025-12-17T08:46:01.423308+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Love the railway, btw
2025-12-17T08:46:03.945057+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	checks if ceiling hasn't disintegrated since lt check
2025-12-17T08:46:17.559054+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Stumbled upon it by accident one time
2025-12-17T08:46:26.587077+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	ty, still needs bridgeworks, tunnelworks and some terraforming
2025-12-17T08:46:57.871941+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	and a platform at a minimum at the station
2025-12-17T08:47:02.560193+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: May the platform and exits (or an outline of them) be done first, so I can run trains here?
2025-12-17T08:47:03.700547+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I've been doing a fair bit of that myself lately
2025-12-17T08:47:21.581151+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Btw you can use the sandbox server to test designs with unlimited materials
2025-12-17T08:47:37.937514+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	1F616EMO: planned platform is the marble outline, shoud be a 30m platform
2025-12-17T08:47:59.672148+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	iirc the stop rails are 30m apart, or thereabouts
2025-12-17T08:48:11.070481+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	30m
2025-12-17T08:48:12.039171+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	yeah
2025-12-17T08:48:30.448511+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	I plan to run KuHa-MoHa-KuHa here
2025-12-17T08:48:31.257910+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	What's "IIRC?
2025-12-17T08:48:32.109847+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	I'll drop some basic stone tile platform nodes in now as a placeholder
2025-12-17T08:48:39.631879+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	if i remember correctly
2025-12-17T08:48:40.514088+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: thanks
2025-12-17T08:48:47.252917+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Ah
2025-12-17T08:48:55.091703+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	That makes sense
2025-12-17T08:48:55.845924+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	afaik anyway :P
2025-12-17T08:49:15.102842+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Also Japanese Engine-Wagon-Wagon-Engine will pass this station without stopping
2025-12-17T08:49:25.213402+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	^ The newcomers express
2025-12-17T08:49:45.010983+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	That E321 stock is for S21, running parallel to the NX but stops more frequently
2025-12-17T08:49:58.648683+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Dear God, that was a lot of ballast
2025-12-17T08:50:06.906985+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	lol
2025-12-17T08:50:15.190745+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	luckily ballast is cheap
2025-12-17T08:50:21.619704+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Oh damn, I should have implemented merging backets
2025-12-17T08:50:23.478370+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	*baskets
2025-12-17T08:50:29.841961+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	It doesn't look like much, but that was probably over a thousand blocks easily
2025-12-17T08:50:37.829839+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	my line?
2025-12-17T08:50:49.591161+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	My yard here
2025-12-17T08:50:58.056850+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	At New Normandy
2025-12-17T08:50:59.286762+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	ah
2025-12-17T08:51:18.735042+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	1k ballast is only 10 stacks though
2025-12-17T08:51:41.533616+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	The bit with tracks was here previously
2025-12-17T08:51:59.535811+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	The rest took around 15 stacks I think
2025-12-17T08:52:09.152357+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Maybe a little less
2025-12-17T08:52:33.130775+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	went through multiple hopper wagons of ballast extending the mainline to Quoralla
2025-12-17T08:53:39.980512+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Yeah. It goes quick
2025-12-17T08:54:02.681182+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I'm just glad I finally made a factory for it a while back
2025-12-17T08:54:22.482133+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: IIRC you plan to build a station around here: https://files.catbox.moe/mgzyoi.png (black cross, forgot its name). Can you reserve some more space (~40 m) for express trains?
2025-12-17T08:54:50.407077+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep not a problem
2025-12-17T08:55:08.544291+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	I tend to build longer platforms as a matter of course anyway
2025-12-17T08:55:09.255689+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Thanks
2025-12-17T08:55:28.777875+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: You can keep using shorter platforms for tracks other than the two used by the express
2025-12-17T08:56:36.353265+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	1F616EMO: I can probably extend the platform at Quoralla a little if needed too
2025-12-17T08:56:48.986117+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: 30m is enough for E231
2025-12-17T08:57:39.534932+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	wait a sec... since when has 45* slopes been more than 2/3m long??????
2025-12-17T08:58:01.735319+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: from 3rd party mod
2025-12-17T08:58:20.258878+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	not advtrains_moreslopes?
2025-12-17T08:58:57.450039+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	the same mod of extended straight slopes
2025-12-17T08:58:58.307224+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	I went to effort to avoid diagonal slopes for nothing `\o/`
2025-12-17T08:59:14.439394+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	(/o\)
2025-12-17T08:59:19.063790+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	oh well
2025-12-17T08:59:23.591836+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	>_<
2025-12-17T08:59:27.873453+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	the alignment still looks decent
2025-12-17T09:01:38.517933+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Oh yeah
2025-12-17T09:01:43.228669+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	My new line
2025-12-17T09:02:19.394878+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	This is approximately 3-4 days of work
2025-12-17T09:03:00.303614+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	And it's at most one sixth  of the final line
2025-12-17T09:03:21.822059+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	where're you headed with it?
2025-12-17T09:03:31.297835+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Oliville
2025-12-17T09:03:42.319706+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	It's a long windy path
2025-12-17T09:03:51.164097+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Once it crosses here
2025-12-17T09:03:56.162516+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	damn, internal server error on my chat log search page
2025-12-17T09:04:03.788700+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	It will continue east for a bit
2025-12-17T09:04:11.983833+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	they're the best kind of railway imo, nice and scenic
2025-12-17T09:04:43.776930+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Then it will turn north here
2025-12-17T09:05:14.908763+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	That was the idea
2025-12-17T09:05:29.236210+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Though it will be primarily a freight line
2025-12-17T09:05:42.281822+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	:D
2025-12-17T09:05:44.821563+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Still, there will be a couple passenger trains on it
2025-12-17T09:05:51.510764+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	freight lines are good lines :D
2025-12-17T09:06:05.733553+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I have a plan for a big megabase along it
2025-12-17T09:06:18.775858+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Elementalcraft: Btw feel free to use the main line as long as your trains don't severely interfere with other trains
2025-12-17T09:06:55.350099+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	i.e., do not send so many trains at once, make sure ther are routed correctly so to not get stuck
2025-12-17T09:07:11.622056+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	This line was mostly made out of somewhat spite
2025-12-17T09:07:33.208923+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Cuz y5nw doesn't think STM is worthwhile
2025-12-17T09:07:49.303646+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	But it's rather efficient for materials
2025-12-17T09:08:02.514554+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	STM?
2025-12-17T09:08:15.053816+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	what's STM?
2025-12-17T09:08:17.049383+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Plus, I've been wanting to do a big scenic train line for a while
2025-12-17T09:08:25.105775+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Single Track Main
2025-12-17T09:08:52.120235+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	bah, there's no reason single track can't be efficient
2025-12-17T09:09:21.982388+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	especially now with the route priority ARS allowing passing loops to be used as needed rather than every time
2025-12-17T09:10:27.394917+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	provided traffic is kept to a manageable pace ofc
2025-12-17T09:12:29.517327+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	ISay what now?
2025-12-17T09:12:43.349435+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	You mean to tell me...
2025-12-17T09:13:26.446062+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Well then I'm gonna need to do some more fiddling before I get to interlocking the line
2025-12-17T09:14:47.763476+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	I have an example on my mining branchline if you wanted an example
2025-12-17T09:16:45.483590+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Bro, where'd you go?
2025-12-17T09:16:54.778474+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I can't even see your tag
2025-12-17T09:16:55.742937+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	sorry, was on an express train
2025-12-17T09:17:06.816725+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Ah
2025-12-17T09:17:16.211039+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Tags don't show up on trains
2025-12-17T09:17:24.980050+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I didn't know that before
2025-12-17T09:17:37.643383+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	really?
2025-12-17T09:17:49.755954+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	is my tag invisible now?
2025-12-17T09:18:04.076320+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I don't see it
2025-12-17T09:18:09.326648+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	huh
2025-12-17T09:19:06.021761+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	hides from annoying players by going AFK in loco cab
2025-12-17T09:19:21.254355+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Lol
2025-12-17T09:19:42.217620+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Yo, got that steam engine
2025-12-17T09:19:46.127992+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Nice
2025-12-17T09:20:04.323606+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	short line, no need for high speeds
2025-12-17T09:20:09.061039+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Only other steam in this server is Oliville, AFAIK
2025-12-17T09:20:25.660803+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	so if you have a look at the routes in the signal ahead of me you'll see 2 yellow ones
2025-12-17T09:20:57.845809+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	they have the same ARS, with the exception of the leading number to indicate priority
2025-12-17T09:21:31.257648+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	if advtrains can't set the first route, it will check the second route (the passing loop in this case)
2025-12-17T09:21:57.592577+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	This is way different than anything I've seen before
2025-12-17T09:23:24.887292+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	This is one hectic yard
2025-12-17T09:23:48.291163+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Switches and diamonds everywhere
2025-12-17T09:24:00.805307+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	it's based on an IRL one from Eastern Australia in the 40s-50s
2025-12-17T09:24:14.075697+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	https://victorianrailways.net/signaling/completedia/warragul1950.html
2025-12-17T09:24:28.939400+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	I like prototypical layouts :P
2025-12-17T09:24:54.648463+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Well, it's certainly cool-looking
2025-12-17T09:24:55.654994+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: where is this train heading to?
2025-12-17T09:25:10.972063+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	the freight?
2025-12-17T09:25:32.820775+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	just changing tracks in the yard to show the passing loop functionality
2025-12-17T09:25:37.446580+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	ah
2025-12-17T09:26:46.872750+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I'm gonna re-log rq
2025-12-17T09:26:49.234603+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	❰ Left the game
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2025-12-17T09:27:46.334157+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Back
2025-12-17T09:27:57.719886+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	Elementalcraft: so if I add the same RC as the previous train to diverge onto the branchline, ARS will detect that the mainline is occupied and put this onto the passing loop instead
2025-12-17T09:28:17.961000+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Ah
2025-12-17T09:29:23.262593+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	you just have to make sure your routes always end after a diverge to allow trains to exit and not deadlock each other
2025-12-17T09:29:57.305066+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	So is the route wired through the signal then?
2025-12-17T09:30:36.695247+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I notice there isn't any ARS rules for these signals
2025-12-17T09:30:43.587833+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yes, the signals on the single track are purely aesthetic (I had to manually route past them when creating the routes)
2025-12-17T09:31:20.521551+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	and they're helpful for moving trains around like a headshunt on the mainline
2025-12-17T09:31:42.527123+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Yeah, well cuz you can't separate the section between sidings
2025-12-17T09:31:53.930197+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	otherwise they'd crash
2025-12-17T09:31:55.589421+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	exactly
2025-12-17T09:32:33.203567+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Well, I'll definitely have to fiddle
2025-12-17T09:32:42.656559+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	^^ best way to learn
2025-12-17T09:33:21.326152+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I have done a lot in creative to experiment with this stuff
2025-12-17T09:33:22.025056+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: ^^ another usage of the sandbox server
2025-12-17T09:33:32.853828+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	1F616EMO: yep
2025-12-17T09:33:47.943456+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: do you have access to that server?
2025-12-17T09:33:51.921040+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	It's unfortunate that LIFO don't have a semi-open sandbox server
2025-12-17T09:33:57.268939+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	haven't logged in, so not sure?
2025-12-17T09:34:12.002353+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Did EMO invite you?
2025-12-17T09:34:37.065981+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Maverick2797: read-only access is granted to all players who joined here (i.e. no new account on sandbox), but write access are granted on request
2025-12-17T09:34:46.824852+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	you now have read-only access
2025-12-17T09:34:55.687537+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Oh
2025-12-17T09:35:01.887913+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I didn't know that
2025-12-17T09:35:07.774672+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	That's cool
2025-12-17T09:35:08.756146+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	use the same credentials as here
2025-12-17T09:35:11.217950+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	they are sync'ed
2025-12-17T09:35:31.570174+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	Btw use /centralauth <player name> to check privs on the other server
2025-12-17T09:35:38.444023+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	So they can see all our cool projects without us needing to use area protection
2025-12-17T09:35:39.876516+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	❱ Joined the game
2025-12-17T09:35:41.784424+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	or youself by omitting the parameter
2025-12-17T09:35:47.145531+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	looks like it works
2025-12-17T09:35:58.253936+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	❱ Joined the game
2025-12-17T09:36:02.185478+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Maverick2797: do you need write access?
2025-12-17T09:36:23.895385+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	can you use travelnets without write access?
2025-12-17T09:36:27.190401+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	yes please
2025-12-17T09:36:28.747818+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	I;m not sure
2025-12-17T09:36:35.457129+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	oh you cannot?
2025-12-17T09:36:45.554365+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	anyways granting you write
2025-12-17T09:36:46.447384+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	apparently not
2025-12-17T09:36:47.640005+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	❱ Joined the game
2025-12-17T09:36:50.228325+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Maverick2797: will fix
2025-12-17T09:37:15.079031+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Damn, can't trigger on_rightclick w/o interact
2025-12-17T09:37:20.242743+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	try walking inside of it
2025-12-17T09:37:28.775957+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	oops
2025-12-17T09:37:29.500840+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	nada
2025-12-17T09:37:30.995473+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	I still can't operate turnouts manually lol
2025-12-17T09:37:32.034597+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	forgot to apply settings
2025-12-17T09:37:43.117113+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	sandbox and survival settings are separated
2025-12-17T09:37:49.608144+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	they are techically distinct docker containers
2025-12-17T09:37:57.646207+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	Elementalcraft: railway_operator priv required
2025-12-17T09:38:10.699458+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	granging
2025-12-17T09:38:17.178465+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	done
2025-12-17T09:38:27.633073+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Haven't really needed to yet, but I think it's funny how I have it in the main server, but I haven't had it here lol
2025-12-17T09:38:51.752628+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Thank you though
2025-12-17T09:39:06.564937+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Maverick2797: you can walk inside travelnets from next sandbox restart
2025-12-17T09:39:10.411122+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	would have thought it would make sense for the auth to also pass on privs maybe?
2025-12-17T09:39:17.275397+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	1F616EMO: cool
2025-12-17T09:39:31.027299+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	❰ Left the game
2025-12-17T09:39:43.645803+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Maverick2797: Some privs should not pass on, e.g. interact, so it isn't simple
2025-12-17T09:40:07.012206+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	All these tracks are my doing
2025-12-17T09:40:34.725517+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	The gravel one is extremely long
2025-12-17T09:41:28.240259+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Maverick2797: I am referencing Wikipedia's CentralAuth system when designing this. Under that system, privileges are only synced for cross-site maintenance (e.g. global administrators who patrol small wikis, and stewards who pick up risky tasks across all wikis)
2025-12-17T09:41:48.377813+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	There's a train that runs all the way back and forth every once and a while
2025-12-17T09:41:49.741627+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	fair enough
2025-12-17T09:41:57.209361+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Headed your way now
2025-12-17T09:43:00.512725+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_SANDBOX	Maverick2797: With Wikipedia's mode in mind, the arcitecture of Luanti CentralAuth is to allow multiple servers to have independent administration while unifying login credentials (to avoid impersonation) and simplify cross-server maintenance
2025-12-17T09:44:19.357904+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Looks like the train beat you
2025-12-17T09:44:38.117635+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	only just considering the distance
2025-12-17T09:45:31.658529+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	1F616EMO: can you $chmod +w Maverick2797 please?
2025-12-17T09:46:21.749731+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	What does that do?
2025-12-17T09:46:51.489280+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	changes file permissions to allow write access to file "Maverick2797"
2025-12-17T09:47:32.749418+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_SANDBOX	aka /grant Maverick2797 interact
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2025-12-17T09:58:08.851690+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Finally back
2025-12-17T09:58:23.043070+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Big lag spike from too many loaded chunks
2025-12-17T09:58:30.017758+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	F
2025-12-17T09:58:49.877670+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_SANDBOX	Did I miss anything?
2025-12-17T09:59:18.122995+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	not much, except non-interact players can't even get on a train
2025-12-17T10:01:16.710346+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	relogging
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2025-12-17T10:05:00.638027+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	1F616EMO: just extended the Quoralla platform to 40m
2025-12-17T10:08:27.836784+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	So are yoy from Australia then? You mentioned earlier that you based your design off of an Aussie yard
2025-12-17T10:08:39.850657+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep, southern Western Australia
2025-12-17T10:09:12.415110+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I just watched Crocodile Dundee a bit ago lol.
2025-12-17T10:09:21.032590+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	you call that a knife?
2025-12-17T10:09:51.036765+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	:P
2025-12-17T10:28:28.874155+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	Elementalcraft: I've created a simple SMT demo with passing loops if you want to have a look
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2025-12-17T10:29:22.188838+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	wb
2025-12-17T10:29:53.572646+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Huh
2025-12-17T10:30:06.638337+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Well I'll be
2025-12-17T10:30:16.218959+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	this may or may not adhere to left hand running rather than right hand, but same principles apply
2025-12-17T10:32:45.463029+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	It doesn't matter as much for STM, though traditionally the passing track is indeed on the right
2025-12-17T10:34:20.538725+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Ultimately "right" or "left" is subjective to which direction you're travelling
2025-12-17T10:34:30.272346+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	yep
2025-12-17T10:34:58.730265+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Looks good though
2025-12-17T10:35:03.554221+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	and with STM the passing loop is often on whichever side made the most sense when the track alignment was built
2025-12-17T10:35:14.660779+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Yep
2025-12-17T10:36:55.050077+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	What if you add a third?
2025-12-17T10:37:02.873964+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	It should have capacity
2025-12-17T10:37:06.276656+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	3rd track or 3rd loop?
2025-12-17T10:37:18.813953+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Third drasine
2025-12-17T10:37:43.526970+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	oh yeah, there should be capacito for 5 drasines wihough a deadlock
2025-12-17T10:37:50.485293+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	*capacity
2025-12-17T10:38:20.352135+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	capacity = 2x#loops + 1
2025-12-17T10:39:06.216462+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I wanna see how the routing does with it
2025-12-17T10:39:11.855932+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	so long as there's always somewhere for at least one train to go, traffic will eventually keep moving
2025-12-17T10:39:24.868609+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	yessir
2025-12-17T10:41:31.858579+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	So maybe four?
2025-12-17T10:41:48.380246+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	er... yep
2025-12-17T10:42:02.643046+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	i was assuming all trains in different directions
2025-12-17T10:42:09.353552+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Lol, is... yep
2025-12-17T10:43:16.107510+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Looks like it works great
2025-12-17T10:43:30.136436+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	it's still possible to deadlock with 4 trains, but most STMs are low enough traffic that that shouldn't ever really be an issue
2025-12-17T10:43:37.979199+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I'll have to impplement this design on the B&R
2025-12-17T10:44:19.101799+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	No, I don't think it can as long as there's at least the two loops
2025-12-17T10:44:35.054982+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	There will always be somewhere for a train to go
2025-12-17T10:45:33.214130+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I mean technically if they're facing each other in both loop sections
2025-12-17T10:45:35.468899+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	i guess so long as you keep the loops close enough together the train should reach the next loop before the previous loop and main are occupied in the same direction
2025-12-17T10:45:47.991893+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	Then it would, but that doesn't happen naturally
2025-12-17T10:48:45.464041+00:00	Maverick2797@MT_TWI	bbl o/
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2025-12-17T11:48:01.764866+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	The yard is now ready to be reopened!
2025-12-17T11:48:08.418569+00:00	1F616EMO@MT_TWI	nice
2025-12-17T11:48:18.921649+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	I now pronounce it
2025-12-17T11:48:24.185968+00:00	Elementalcraft@MT_TWI	OPEN!
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2025-12-17T23:24:53.135629+00:00	HelenasaurusRex@MT_TWI	Hi PvP1234
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