Chat log for 1f616emoluanti-transport on 2025-10-04

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113:49:29nya_1f616emo@DCOn both side of the station are downward slopes... I am afraid having tunnels would be hard esp. on the west side
219:17:13browndoggie1912@DC@nya_1f616emo I believe a simple retaining wall and back-fill will fix that issue
320:36:32browndoggie1912@DCAlso, after a bit of fiddling and testing, I've come to the conclusion that the ARS issue at the Compound is not my fault but rather an AdvTrains bug
420:38:44y5nw@DCThat is already known; IMO the next step is to patch the mod to find out what exactly triggered ARS at the signal
520:41:20browndoggie1912@DCIt's really weird because it seems to set a whole line of them to whatever their default (or RC route if it has no default) is once a train leaves the switch section at the immediate entrance to the yard. The one above the tunnel.
620:42:11browndoggie1912@DCAnd even after making it non-ARS at the bottom switch, it still sets the train catcher switch ahead of it.
720:43:05browndoggie1912@DCThese things don't happen when manually setting routes with no trains on the line. Only when there's a train running does it have this issue
820:43:05y5nw@DCPart of the problem with the switch was that I messed things up while trying to look into the issue
920:43:25browndoggie1912@DCIt's nothing you did
1020:43:35browndoggie1912@DCNot directly anyway
1120:44:52browndoggie1912@DCI built roughly the same system on the sandbox server and it functions perfectly even with a non-RC train being caught be the train catcher. Granted it's quite small, so there are other issues
1220:45:10browndoggie1912@DCBut the RC system works
1320:45:12y5nw@DCAlso I recall there being a loop along the line? I suppose a possible cause explanation is that the distance for triggering ARS is too long (i.e. longer than it should be)
1420:45:30y5nw@DC"RC system"?
1520:45:38y5nw@DCAlso I recall there being a loop along the line? I suppose a possible explanation is that the distance for triggering ARS is too long (i.e. longer than it should be)
1620:45:51browndoggie1912@DCThe trains triggering the RC routing
1720:46:11y5nw@DCAh, so the route selection system? I don't think that is the problem here to begin with
1820:46:20browndoggie1912@DCThe issues that I'm having on the main server were not present
1920:47:26y5nw@DCAlthough this would not explain why ARS is triggered on the signal even when the signal leading to it does not have a route set. In any case having a hint on the source of the ARS trigger would be much more helpful than speculating here
2020:48:02browndoggie1912@DCKinda, the problem as far as I can tell is it's setting the default route from way too far back so that by the time the train would be triggering the RC route, it's being overridden by the already set route.
2120:48:44y5nw@DCThat in itself would still be a bug with the route_setting_ system, not the route _selection_ system
2220:48:53browndoggie1912@DCNot anymore, it does set the whole line when I have ARS on
2320:49:57y5nw@DCNot to mention that this is inherently a consequence of the bug: something else triggers ARS at the signal and a route is set, in which case any approaching train would take the route regardless of whether it matches the ARS rules for said route
2420:51:12browndoggie1912@DCAt some point along the yard loop though it stops keeping me from canceling the route and it can set the ARS route normally.
2520:52:01browndoggie1912@DCSo for some reason there's a portion of the loop that wants to set the whole bit to default
2620:53:22browndoggie1912@DCThe only thing I haven't tried is what happens when a train coming from the Chunnel that has one of the RCs
2720:57:34browndoggie1912@DCThe simplest fix to this would probably be to have the RC of the train setting the first signal be told to each subsequent signal that gets set, that way no matter what, it will go according to it's RC. Ultimately though, the route setting system could really use an overhaul.
2821:11:06y5nw@DCLook into distant signaling then
2921:28:33y5nw@DChttps://lists.sr.ht/~gpcf/advtrains-devel/patches/62645

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