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101:47:141F616EMO~nya @TGHi maverick
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402:21:21Maverick2797@MT_TWIheyo
502:21:381F616EMO@MT_TWII am mapping out where the line connecting JATIC and Groma should go
602:21:521F616EMO@MT_TWIThe line to your new base will be an extension to the JATIC section
702:24:03Maverick2797@MT_TWIi've had a quick look at that too, and I'm thinking maybe heading out around crystal biome and instead diverting through the silver sandstone biome to the west?
802:26:151F616EMO@MT_TWITwo of my plans involves going through the icy terrian
902:27:221F616EMO@MT_TWI(1) https://files.catbox.moe/iuj6dv.png Goes through the crystal biomes via a bridge.
1002:27:481F616EMO@MT_TWI(2) https://files.catbox.moe/ve7ycb.png Goes just next to the crystal biome
1102:28:091F616EMO@MT_TWI(3) https://files.catbox.moe/9jdd0a.png Completely bypasses crystals
1202:28:271F616EMO@MT_TWIThe two black dots are Groma and JATIC
1302:29:06Maverick2797@MT_TWI(3) is more in line with what I was thinking, but (2) might be doable too, depending on how adverse we are to tracks laid on a glacier
1402:31:071F616EMO@MT_TWIIt is logically insane but is doable, y5nw built a transit-oriented city on a glacier
1502:35:211F616EMO@MT_TWIMaverick2797: do you need fly privs?
1602:35:44Maverick2797@MT_TWIno thanks, I make do with the glider alright
1702:35:481F616EMO@MT_TWIokay
1802:38:39Maverick2797@MT_TWIyou probably saw the PR already, but I patched the random_messages_api to add a command to allow hiding the messages on a per-player basis
1902:50:18Maverick2797@MT_TWIhow about this route? https://files.catbox.moe/p6b3pp.png
2002:51:23Maverick2797@MT_TWIpink diversion would require a couple of bridges, whereas main red diversion would just be a fairly straight run along the base of the snowy hills
2102:53:231F616EMO@MT_TWIIt seems like we need some tunnel for the yellow section
2202:54:31Maverick2797@MT_TWIi was assuming that would be the case to avoid a couple of really sharp bends straight out of the station on the mainline
2302:54:441F616EMO@MT_TWIAh
2402:55:591F616EMO@MT_TWIIf we are doing the pink route, we may be able to run above Duck Island in a enev more straight route, much like what was proposed in my plan (1).
2502:57:53Maverick2797@MT_TWIgoing to be a bit of tunnelling and/or bridging whichever way we go
2602:57:591F616EMO@MT_TWIyeah
2702:59:151F616EMO@MT_TWIAnd the height of Groma roughly aligns with this hill, so we cna occupy a small portion of crysal land to do the decline before diverging back to the icey terrian
2803:00:54Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat would work
2903:01:15Maverick2797@MT_TWIelevated track notched into the hillside
3003:03:43Maverick2797@MT_TWIgrand bridge coming across the first gap, notch and tunnel along the crystal in a fairly straight line, and another grand bridge across here
3103:04:311F616EMO@MT_TWIOh
3203:09:191F616EMO@MT_TWIBtw, the main line has to be in right-hand traffic, so branches and connections can be made easily; it is OK to do left-hand in local railways
3303:09:43Maverick2797@MT_TWInp
3403:09:581F616EMO@MT_TWIhmm, np: "no problem" or "nope"?
3503:10:131F616EMO@MT_TWII guess it's "no problem"?
3603:10:17Maverick2797@MT_TWIno problem
3703:10:221F616EMO@MT_TWIThanks :-D
3803:10:31Maverick2797@MT_TWInp == no problem, nah == nope
3903:10:341F616EMO@MT_TWIAh
4003:10:44Maverick2797@MT_TWIor just no probs :P
4103:11:501F616EMO@MT_TWII got some trackworking and tunneling digtrons that can be used to build long straight sections (completely straight and 45^\deg diagonal)
4203:11:591F616EMO@MT_TWII always mess up my 30^\deg diagonal
4303:12:391F616EMO@MT_TWII build tracks with 3m separation in subways too, so I can reuse the same digtrons
4403:14:35Maverick2797@MT_TWIwhen you say 3m separation... whick one of these do you mean?
4503:14:501F616EMO@MT_TWIthis ofc
4603:14:56Maverick2797@MT_TWIgotcha
4703:15:041F616EMO@MT_TWII am not being insale for choosing that one for intercity railway
4803:15:251F616EMO@MT_TWIhmm
4903:15:26Maverick2797@MT_TWI3m inside-to-inside rather than 3m centre to centre
5003:16:041F616EMO@MT_TWIwell, the seperating between two same-direction tracks in the Spawn-SmushyVille tunnel is 3m centre-to-centre...
5103:16:101F616EMO@MT_TWI*seperation
5203:19:141F616EMO@MT_TWIhuh
5303:19:221F616EMO@MT_TWII took out the wrong digtron
5403:19:331F616EMO@MT_TWII wanted to bring the staright one but got the 30^\deg diagonal one
5503:21:591F616EMO@MT_TWII almost forgot where was my digtron
5603:22:18Maverick2797@MT_TWIthey need a locator beacon or something
5703:22:231F616EMO@MT_TWIol
5803:22:291F616EMO@MT_TWIfound it
5903:44:461F616EMO@MT_TWIMaverick2797: I have extended the main line past Duck Island
6003:45:09Maverick2797@MT_TWIblinks
6103:45:201F616EMO@MT_TWIit looks good at /night
6203:45:40Maverick2797@MT_TWIalways important
6303:48:56Maverick2797@MT_TWIthe annoying thing about starting again on a server is the lack of heavy machinery and automation you got used to previously...
6403:50:111F616EMO@MT_TWIhmm what's that pile of lava...
6503:50:12Maverick2797@MT_TWIdon't mind the liquid light behind me
6603:50:151F616EMO@MT_TWIlol
6703:52:211F616EMO@MT_TWIdigtron needs more fuel
6803:52:33Maverick2797@MT_TWIyep, a tree farm in planned
6903:57:471F616EMO@MT_TWIgood choppy
7003:58:01Maverick2797@MT_TWIchoppy is *very* handy for bigger trees
7103:58:491F616EMO@MT_TWImaybe you can run this digtron on HV power
7203:58:58Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat's the plan
7303:59:101F616EMO@MT_TWIand auto unloader on either side
7403:59:49Maverick2797@MT_TWIyep
7504:00:02Maverick2797@MT_TWIor just pause it at one end with the luacontroller
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9805:40:36Maverick2797@MT_TWIis the news supposed to trigger the "new news" notification when the other servers restart?
9905:41:291F616EMO@MT_SANDBOXit checks for update everyt 5 min
10005:41:331F616EMO@MT_SANDBOXand I did update it
10105:41:441F616EMO@MT_SANDBOXthat's unrelated to the sandbox server
10205:42:07Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat would make sense then, I thought I checked the news when I logged back in
10305:42:081F616EMO@MT_SANDBOXJust did some changes to the Oriend Express and made it production-ready'
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10605:44:461F616EMO@MT_TWIhmm, single-tracled here?
10705:44:491F616EMO@MT_TWI*tracked
10805:45:19Maverick2797@MT_TWIonly just getting the outline/scale down, most likely going to be a double track main
10905:45:25Maverick2797@MT_TWIhttps://victorianrailways.net/signaling/completedia/warragul1950_02.jpg
11005:45:281F616EMO@MT_TWIokay
11105:45:311F616EMO@MT_TWII have to think about where the Newcomers Express will go; if it's gonna pass through here, this have to be dual
11205:45:54Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat's fine with me
11305:45:571F616EMO@MT_TWI:-D
11405:47:07Maverick2797@MT_TWIhaving the extended slopes makes it nicer to follow the terrain with a line instead of jumping up when you hit a bump :)
11505:48:241F616EMO@MT_TWIBtw, I am thinking of a solution to diverging a slower train into a sidling (most likely a station track that will only see the next train in more than 1.5 minutes) so a faster train behind it can pass first
11605:48:431F616EMO@MT_TWIbut I did't come up with any ideas
11705:49:15Maverick2797@MT_TWIlike a 3 platform station with 2 main platforms?
11805:49:54Maverick2797@MT_TWIor would a stub platform work if we can reverse the train back out onto the mainline before continuing onwards?
11905:51:441F616EMO~nya @TGI’d like to use existing stations to do the job - so the slower train stops at the platform, and then the faster train passes through a non-platform track (or for stations with multiple pairs of platforms, another platform track is also ok)
12005:52:06Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat's definitely doable
12105:53:04Maverick2797@MT_TWIhave a look at the plan i sent above, No1 can be the normal platform, Back Platform as the slow train platform, and No2 as the express bypass
12205:53:281F616EMO~nya @TGDoable if everything is manually controlled, but I wonder if that can be automated (LuaATC?)
12305:53:41Maverick2797@MT_TWIsurely it can be
12405:54:25Maverick2797@MT_TWIjust have the slow train always arrive at Back Platform, and a short delay on No1 to allow for bi-directional stopping
12505:56:52Maverick2797@MT_TWIon the other hand, dynamic platform assignment according to what's occupied might still be doable if you have a Lua track a couple of signals early to set an approach RC to direct to an available platform, updating notifications at the same time
12606:03:22Maverick2797@MT_TWIoof that was a lag spike
12706:05:09Maverick2797@MT_TWIlol, just realised I can't do anything with turnouts... can I have the railway_operator priv please?
12806:44:231F616EMO@MT_TWIMaverick2797: oops
12906:44:311F616EMO@MT_TWIdone
13006:44:33Maverick2797@MT_TWIthanks
13106:44:511F616EMO@MT_TWI*maybe* you can operate those within your area, but I can grant you this anyways
13206:45:161F616EMO@MT_TWIIs this the Melbourne station?
13306:45:36Maverick2797@MT_TWIit only seems to be when I try to rotate a turnout rather than changing direction on it, yet rotating the corner tracks is fine
13406:45:461F616EMO@MT_TWIMaverick2797: Ah
13506:45:501F616EMO@MT_TWIshift and rightclick
13606:45:551F616EMO@MT_TWIcuz rightclicking switch it
13706:46:081F616EMO@MT_TWIand shift plus rightclicking rotates it
13806:46:32Maverick2797@MT_TWIMelbourne: nah, that's just my reference from the plan, Melbounrne being the "up" end of the yard
13906:46:441F616EMO@MT_TWIcustom patch applied here so you can put trackworkers into itemfra,es
14006:46:461F616EMO@MT_TWI*ittemframes
14106:46:58Maverick2797@MT_TWIhuh, thought I tried shift+rightclick...
14206:47:08Maverick2797@MT_TWIcan you de-priv me for a sec please?
14306:47:111F616EMO@MT_TWIokay
14406:47:201F616EMO@MT_TWIdone
14506:47:32Maverick2797@MT_TWIyep, still works
14606:47:351F616EMO@MT_TWIokay
14706:47:38Maverick2797@MT_TWInot sure how I missed that?
14806:47:531F616EMO@MT_TWIon LIFO you don't have to shift while rotating
14906:48:33Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat would be it. does that patch override the on_rightclick function?
15006:48:361F616EMO@MT_TWIhere is the patch: https://github.com/C-C-Minetest-Server/twi_mods/blob/main/rightclick_fix/init.lua
15106:49:07Maverick2797@MT_TWIyep, it does
15206:49:14Maverick2797@MT_TWIgood to know
15306:51:401F616EMO@MT_TWII guess you're aware of this - we have slopes with lengths way pastt 3
15406:52:03Maverick2797@MT_TWIyep, much more realistic to follow the terrain
15506:52:161F616EMO@MT_TWI:-D
15606:54:561F616EMO@MT_TWIWhy is the newcomers express not running...
15706:55:251F616EMO@MT_TWIHell, it ran past interlocked area
15806:55:38Maverick2797@MT_TWIError 404: active service not found
15906:55:421F616EMO@MT_TWIHmm
16006:55:581F616EMO@MT_TWIGotta take my private diesel engine to head to that station
16106:56:121F616EMO@MT_TWII need some time to program junction operations...
16206:57:541F616EMO@MT_TWIFortunately I am mostly running on trunks, so I don't have to instruct that man junctions
16306:59:081F616EMO@MT_TWISo the RC is just "J-SPN_S-ISN-RXF J-YTP-YTP_N-SV_N BAJ-1BW", two starting with "J-" for junctions and the last for entering the station
16406:59:201F616EMO@MT_TWINah its J-SPN_S-ISN-RXF J-YTP-YTP_N-SV_N BAJ-T1BW
16506:59:50Maverick2797@MT_TWIthat's a lot of pre-planning going into the RC scheme
16606:59:561F616EMO@MT_TWIYeah
16707:00:011F616EMO@MT_TWIfor routing arbitary trains
16807:02:081F616EMO@MT_TWII can use my private diesel engine like a private jet, but I seldom use it that way unless I am travelling to somewhere far away from stations (e.g. some depots, and in this case, when the only service is gone)
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